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Prom 2008 — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:26:24 -0000

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Hani Shaker — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:29:15 -0000

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hiutopor — Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:00:22 -0000

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Kaylah Herendeen — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 05:08:02 -0000

This one makes sence "One's first step in wisdom is to kuesstion everything - and one's last is to come to terms with everything."

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christian — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:07:09 -0000

anyone ever heard the scipture about not having any unwholesome word proceed out of your mouth which is not fitting for those who profess godliness... or how about the one that says if you cant control your mouth then your religion is useless? why are you using profanity on a christian website, trying to make it sound cool?

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Kat Jacobs — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:28:15 -0000

I wasn't there so I don't really have an opinion and even if I did I don't think it would make a difference to anyone since I'm not a member of Sandals and the same situation has not occurred at my church.

I have two daughters (and a son on the way). My 2 year old LOVES her Sunday School class, but more than that she loves to go to Mommy and Daddy's "class" (the church service) for awhile before we take her to her class.

Every week, she'll join us for the worship music and part of the sermon. I don't know if she's a distraction or not...we try not to be.

What I do know is this, the other day, I was checking weather.com and an ad popped up. The ad showed people cheering at a sporting event. Even though we've been to tons of football and basketball games (we live in a college town) my daughter's first comment when she saw the picture was:

"Wook Mommy! People worshipping God!"

I know that I want my children to see people really worshipping God. I want them to see me worshipping Him. I want them to see me studying the Bible and other adults studying the Bible.

Is "big" church the best place for this or perhaps a Bible Study?

I suppose either way our kids will be a bit of a distraction.

Sorry, no answers here. Just thoughts.

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Rhi — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:32:37 -0000

wow. what controversy. first, i think kid's church is for kids. that IS why we put so much effort and love into THEIR church. also, if you are gonna have your kid in the main church, it isn't so much that kids don't belong.. it's the parents who forget there are other folk in the room, trying to focus, listen and pay attention that is annoying. it's like the folk who ANSWER their cell phones during service. shouldn't the phones be off during service anyhow? it's just common courtesy, a thing lost on most folk today. best believe you won't ever be distracted by my kid in church...he'll be over learning more about God from his loving Flip Flops and Pipeline teachers!

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Anne Jackson — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:46:25 -0000

i still beat you on my cussing post :) sucka. haha. im sure you'll surpass.

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brodyHarper — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:46:05 -0000

"I have enjoyed the play of philosophy, the sarcastic remarks, the apologies, clarifications, and the witty back handed comments. If you can’t do this with brothers in Christ, who can you do it with?"

Perfect.

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Cash — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 00:43:49 -0000

It wasn't so much the verse that was Sunday School in nature as the it was the depth of the argument. Several other verses in the Bible speak of reverence during worship and teaching of the Word. The children coming to Jesus is a beautiful story and we have much to learn from it. However, it was a specific moment in the ministry of Christ meant to change the attitude we have towards children and the Kingdom of God, but I don't think it was meant as a model for church services.

I have enjoyed the play of philosophy, the sarcastic remarks, the apologies, clarifications, and the witty back handed comments. If you can't do this with brothers in Christ, who can you do it with?

One God, One Truth, One Love, you know what I mean?

I am going to gracefully bow out now.

Peace

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Tony — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:00:31 -0000

Uh... you can keep the CD, bro... I know of Los' secret history in the New America Singers...

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nathan — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:20:54 -0000

Does Tony win a Carlos Whittaker Christmas CD?
Come on 100 is Huge!!!!!
This is amazing!!!!
At least you should get a congrats phone call from the "Blog Father"
...........hm or maybe it is Heather because She posted at 2:02 pst. and 3:02 pst on her computer and Tony, technecally posted at least two hours after......so if this is the Olympics and everything is rigged, Heater Wins!!!!!!!!

Yeah........................

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Tony — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:11:31 -0000

Not sure; I'm in Ohio, so it's 5:10. Sorry, I should've waited...

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whittakerwoman — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:03:36 -0000

tony you beat me
why does it say i posted at 3:02 its 2:02 on my computer?

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whittakerwoman — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:02:14 -0000

i will do it for you babe... 100!!!

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Tony — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:07:03 -0000

100!

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loswhit — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:22:03 -0000

One More Comment!!!! We Can Do It!!!
One More to 100!!!
Los

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brodyHarper — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:39:12 -0000

Cash.

I realized after pushing "submit" that my "correction wasn't very clear.

you said:
"Brody was not an eyewitness to the account on Sunday and therefore has a limited ability to make a relevant point. Nevertheless, his attempt to make a relevant point using neat verses from Sunday School is really cute."

My correction was that it didn't matter if I was an eyewitness to the account on Sunday. I was asked my opinion, already placed in a public forum. I can see your point that I wasn't there and can't make a total judgement on the actions of your pastor. I can also see the fact that this is a blog where an opinion was asked.

I have spent all this time "discussing" this and never really stated what I would have done though. I would have let it slide and had an usher or someone else on staff (maybe Carlos) talk to the woman after the service.

Just as my "outburst" that everyone is referring to negates my entire argument, the same (no doubt) occurred after the pastors "outburst" negated the rest of his entire sermon. Imagine if someone across the room was really getting something out of the service, and was completely un-phased by the child. I see that as an opportunity lost. Again, I am sorry for calling your pastor pretentious. He probably isn't.

I still can't figure out if I should apologize for using "neat verses from Sunday School" though.

I didn't realize "Big People Church" verses were separate from "Sunday School" verses in the Bible.

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Cash — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:41:35 -0000

Brody,

I am certainly not pissed off. There are bigger fish that require my emotions.

I was merely stating the obvious about pretentious people of which I find myself a part of all too often. And if your opinion is that we have a pretentious and arrogant preacher that you simply can't learn from...then my last comment stands firm and speaks for itself. There is no need to wash, rinse, and repeat.

You said you had a correction for me. What is it exactly you are correcting? I was commenting on the opinion you gave in a public forum, not what prompted you to give it. Perhaps we could more accurately say that you were clarifying and providing background. That's appreciated. But there's certainly nothing to correct.

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RickyG — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:44:13 -0000

Was she an elephant? Who said that?
Nevermind, no more!!!

Man, if she was thinking about coming back to church she is not now after reading all your posts!

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YES? NO?

I'll eat some dog food. Any bids?

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brodyHarper — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:41:54 -0000

jennita.
I realized that... but how is that woman going to take that? Any excuse for someone else calling her a "sub-par parent"??

Just curious

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brodyHarper — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:40:21 -0000

You are right though, Cash. I don't know how to run a church. I'm sure there are plenty off people that do that better than me.

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jennita — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:17:11 -0000

Brody- Just want to say ONE more thing. Tammy never called this woman an elephant!!!! If you read her comment she refers to the issue of distacting children in church as the giant elephant. And to further clarify that a giant elephant is just an expression used to describe and issue that is huge and not being addressed. No one called her an elephant!!!

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brodyHarper — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:01:52 -0000

Albee

Here is a copy of an email that I sent Los minutes after posting.

"yeah, i guess that was pretty harsh... sorry. I think the very first comment pissed me off... i shouldn't have jumped to that.
i just don't think it's the pastors place to call out a lady in the middle of church... did he apologize to her at all? or just the next services?
brody"
(for additional copies see Carlos' email trash bin)

Cash.

I have one correction for you. Carlos asked my "ragamuffin opinion". He asked my opinion. I gave it... and pissed a bunch of people off... I'm not worried about that.

Once again. The pastor apologized. I'm okay with that... I'm not okay with all the crap slinging found here... obviously not a group of people learning by example.

I don't like football