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ruthie o. unaegbu — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:00:15 -0000

I am attending school here in the US. I am from Canada. I just heard from my dad that my pastor did the exact same thing. He just left his wife and 4 kids for a woman with a husband and 3 kids. If he could do so wrong, what can be right? Devastating!

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Ed — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:37:56 -0000

While I can appreciate all the calls to prayer and support, at some point the church needs to get a sack and confront the predator.
We should not continue the failed church policies of the past and send em packin' off to the next unsuspecting group, organization or church, but stop him in his tracks.
Mr. Trotters last employer of record has a responsibility to pray for him and also to track him like a dog for the next several years and make every legal attempt to prevent him from spreading his poison and leaving devastated families in his wake.
Our nations churches have been acting cowardly for years because we have not stopped these abuses of power.

IMHO

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annalynn. — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:01:38 -0000

thanks for praying for us, and most especially for pastor dave and the trotter family. it's been devastating, but it's thru these times that i get excited to see what things God has in store for our church family...

thanks everyone for your prayers.

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anne jackson — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:21:54 -0000

if you want to read about the courageous tale of grace tunz mentions above just go to my site and search for "courageous tale of grace"

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RagamuffinTop — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:26:15 -0000

Unfortunately the real problem isn't being addressed here and that is the institution we call Christian Churchdom continues to propagate and indoctrinate us into ministry lifestyles that result in this sickening type of event. Pushing staff and leaders for numbers and $ at the cost of peoples lives. I can see this is the example Christ himself set! NOT!

Few Christian volunteers, leaders, elders, staff members or pastors are saying “Enough is enough, my boundaries are set! I will not spend the overtime in this ministry at the cost of my marriage or my children! Instead I would expect something more. Mentors, leaders, pastors, friends…where are you when I need you to tell me to take as much time as I need to ensure my house is in order?”

Instead we crave leadership roles that make us look good. We lie to each other and say WERE NOT DAMAGED GOODS. We run like lemmings over the cliff of destruction because our pastors are so busy building, what they think is the kingdom.

I will be praying for Laura, the kids and Dave…but realize, that this is the aftermath of one more bad example and frankly disgusting picture of Gods people not putting the simplicity of the two greatest commandments first… Love God and Love each other!

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Double-A — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:54:14 -0000

When any of us think "That can't happen to me," the Great Deceiver has us right where he wants us...

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April — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:38:46 -0000

Our church went through this several years ago. The family was able to work things out and in fact a couple of years ago, they renewed their wedding vows!! God is Good and He is faithful even when we fall.
This situation strengthened our church in ways that probably would not have been possible otherwise. It caused all of us to realize we are not above sin and we need to be accountable to others.
I am praying for restoration for all involved: families, and church members!

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Guest — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:42:47 -0000

Wow....that is sobering. And it can happen to ANYONE given the right set of circumstances and the right heart attitude. I'll be praying for that church and that family....God can turn anything around!

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tunz — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:32:27 -0000

I started to refer people to Cindy Beale's blog from Ann Jackson's site but I see it is no longer available. Sometimes I feel people just need hope. Families can survive this, it is not too late. And I remind myself, this sin is no greater than my flavor of the day sin. I am praying for repentance and forgiveness for all involved.

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gbrad@mag — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:20:36 -0000

A couple of guys pray specifically for marriages @ Mag . . . I'll make sure they get this . . . I will pray . . . If he really knows the LORD nothing can pluck him out of GOD's hand . . . Yes Los a call to prayer and a crying out

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emily — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:20:10 -0000

A sobering reality of living in a fallen world. Thank you for sharing. We need these watershed moments to remind us that we are all but a moment from being this guy- but for the grace of God!

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Joseph — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:13:07 -0000

Wow! I'm so sorry to hear this. Having been Ted Haggard's associate pastor for many years, I know first hand what it feels like to experience the pain of betrayal and then deal with the reality of a major transition. I also know how devastating it can be on both families directly involved. I will pray. Our church will pray. And God will still be God no matter what.

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bobby — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:04:03 -0000

Thanks for everyone's prayers. And thanks for posting Los.

As said above, please pray for the other family involved as well. They are young Christians and are going through hell right now as well.

Being with some of the people from Revolution the past couple of days was pretty heartbreaking and encouraging all at the same time. The leadership is already handling it so great, and so many people in the church are already focusing on Christ and praying like they never have before. God is already at work.

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loswhit — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:53:39 -0000

No one is giving up. This is a call to prayer. Though I agree with you.
Los

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Jan — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:46:22 -0000

People, don't give up on this guy. Too often we are quick to encourage people to divorce and just move on. Marriage is worth fighting for, even after an affair.If anyone knows this guy, GO AFTER HIM! His family can survive this sort of thing, and they can come out of it even stronger. Look at King David, guys. He definitely reaped, and so did his sons, but HE KNEW GOD and understood grace and mercy more than a lot of us do. He was a man after God's own heart! And he majorly messed up! I repeat, people, MARRIAGE IS WORTH FIGHTING FOR...

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mudpuppy — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:50:04 -0000

A very close friend of mine just told me that he had an affair. Actually, he was more than a friend, he was one of the two men in my life that shaped me to be the man I am today (the other being my father).

My first instinct was to go home and love on my wife and son. I vowed to never take them for granted again.

Actually I was thinking about this last night as I watched the NY Governor talk about his downfall. It just amazes me how rampant this is in our society.

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Guest — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:35:43 -0000

We had this happen at our church 2 1/2 years ago and the heartache and loss is still fresh. God heals the broken hearted and my prayer will be that the Great Healer will be touching hearts at this church. It's so heartbreaking.

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lynse leanne — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:33:20 -0000

that sinking feeling in your stomache when you are truly grieved for others is what i am experiencing right now.

that will mess you up. will be praying for them...and the kids. a split up in the family is so hard. ugh.

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Terrace Crawford — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:29:20 -0000

Ouch. That is heartbreaking. We all need so much prayer as we can make this same mistake in a second. Los, I appreciate this reminder and I appreciated Corey's comment above mine. That is also something we need to hear.

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Corey — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:09:34 -0000

Don't give up on him.

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Rachel — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:42:35 -0000

::sigh::

The last few days have showed me how fragile life and human relationships can be. Our only hope is Christ...and I pray that is Who prevails in this whole thing.

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cool dad — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:38:13 -0000

Thanks for sharing this. Devastating. Another reminder of how weak we are and how Christ is the only good thing in us.

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Karen — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:04:57 -0000

It is sad to me that I am not surprised. I hope his wife and children get through this speedily. As for him, I'm jaded. I've been in "the ministry" for over 25 years. People don't "fall" into that because they are victims of their job. He's a jerk. Forgive me everyone. Just my opinion.

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Linda Sue — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:01:38 -0000

we all HAVE the capacity - sorry I actually was crying as I keyboarded -

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Linda Sue — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:00:12 -0000

I read about being accountable by "sharing" online. We all edit what we show to others. Sins of the flesh sounds old fashioned - yet the flesh is how we outwardly express rebellion against God. Infidelity is a tragedy for the family and the the Body of Christ. Praying for restoration and healing is our first job as Christians. We all the capacity to do wrong, we have to make the daily choices to do right. You are a man after God's heart, Carlos - for caring and for understanding the lesson - protect the sanctity of your marriage and family - it is the first target of the Accuser.