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But he's probably been hearing that a lot over the past 2000 years. ;)
we have a diverse crowd where everyone feels loved and comfortable.
we try hard to do that matthew 22:37-40 stuff but we want to do better.
I digress... I guess my response would be the same either way. I'd tell him.. "Ya know Jesus, I could easily tell you all that I think is wrong with my church and how we do or don't do ministry based on my own interpretation but in reality I have to be honest and say I see lives being changed. I see people every week turning their lives over to you. I see you working in our midst. I see redemption and grace and it looks good. Yes, I wish we were doing more but instead of pointing my finger at anyone else... I hope I am pleasing you by doing my very best to make a positive contribution to Your church."
But are WE not the church?
I know the church is HIS, but WE are His bride.
How are WE "doing" as the Capital "C" Church?
Now, If you don't mind, Unless you plan to get on stage, would you like to volunteer in Waumba land?
Right away it would be obvious that it isn't MY church. I suppose I could still say that things or OK or great or so-so or terrible, but i suppose it wouldn't matter what my answer was. He would be compassionate of my ignorance and say something to make sense of the crazy encounter.
Where I go to church I see a body trying their best to serve God and reach people for Jesus. I see a church that could justifiable take all the money given to build a facility to house the 5000 plus people that attend.Especially since we have long since been able to accomidate all the people. A building project that has been in the process for over 4 years but instead of just doing that, this body starts an inner city Dream Center in a 50 yr old building. Instead they start a campus in Mozambique Africa and Swaziland Africa. I see a body of believers that are led to believe it's not all about them, it's about others, it's about serving, reaching, building and giving to others so that they come to know Christ.
Have you not been paying attention?
We talk about this all the time, man.
Dang Jesus, sometimes you are so focused that you, like, ask the weirdest questions.
Seriously, you have got to stop playing!
Really though,
It's tough right now, we've got heavy stuff to carry and we can't do it as good as you could. Like where in all my pastor training did it teach me how to deal with this kind of stuff. I could really use your help right now Jesus.
No playing...
DEREK
(seriously now)
I'd tell him that I'm blown away by the changes that he's been making in me through the church. I'd tell him that the church is the most alive and vibrant that it has ever been. And I'd tell him how greatful I am to be a part of what he's doing!
Then I'd ask him to throw a football with me.
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Well, Jesus...we try so hard to get it right sometimes that we end up getting it wrong. Sometimes we're thriving and active in Your Kingdom. Sometimes we're aloof and distracted. We're human, as You know. You planned on that one, so I'm sure none of this is a surprise to You. We're working out our trust in You and learning how to do life together. We're grateful that You offer a lot of grace and mercy...You know more than us how much we need it.
then i'd say, "we're trying to stretch everybody and transform this to a place where people who don't know you can meet you."
then i'd say, "nothing is greater, brilliant creator, friend of mine."
Tim
We're rather stuck in 1945-55. We've totally missed the boat - as far as most of the adult congregation is concerned. The kids are "getting it" - and they're only about 5 years behind.
We're trying, but it's like trying to cram a camel through the eye of a needle.
In my most "know-it-all" voice I'd say two things:
1. We're doing great in the areas of business management, skill performance, and commercial success.
2. We're doing terrible in the area of interpersonal health, public relations, and social justice.
Then Jesus would make me feel foolish by asking me:
"You're right. That is an accurate description of yourself."