DISQUS

Ragamuffin Soul: Organizational Budget Trimming In ‘09

  • PastorT · 1 year ago
    Yep, I actually went to work yesterday and had a note in my box. It read: "Due to financial shortcomings, we will be eliminating your position as of Feb. 09."
    Yes, a church...Yes, a note. FAN-FREAKIN-TASTIC.
  • Brandy · 1 year ago
    That is incredibly sad- I am so sorry. Somehow I feel like my husband used to work at your church....
  • johnincolorado · 1 year ago
    DAAANG dude. that is poor poor form. sorry about that. that must put you in a tough place.
  • PastorT · 1 year ago
    I agree with you that the method wasn't very tasteful, but my job was extra money. We DID depend on it, but I don't want it to sound worse than it is. Sounds cliche, but He will provide!!! No worries!! :-)
  • chackler · 1 year ago
    We've already been in cut-mode all year. We've had to lay-off a few people (every department). We recently went through a re-finance and have just made sure that every area of our budget is within practical standards.

    It's been tough, but God is good through it all and we are now positioned for greater growth. Sometimes you gotta prune the branches in order to grow deeper and stronger.
  • artgood · 1 year ago
    We've cut the pastor's salary. It sucks since I'm the pastor.

    So far that's it.
  • Chris · 1 year ago
    Our year end usually ends up about 10% under spending in expenses but this year we made it official - cut 10% from our operating budget in October. Salary freezes, re-evaluate in January and May.

    The beautiful thing is that our church is giving more than it ever has - regional ministry, global outreach, child sponsorship, etc etc.
  • Jeremy Killian · 1 year ago
    To save everyone money, I just quit my job. Compassionate, eh?
  • jonathan · 1 year ago
    The conference budget has been ZEROED, and the hiring of special workers to help during large events has been discouraged.

    But overall, nothing very drastic.
  • zak white · 1 year ago
    we use a three tiered budget. We have the EMERGENCY budget, Program budget, and dream budget....so we aren't really trimming a whole lot...but we ARE moving to the bottom rung on the ladder.

    EMERGENCY!!!
  • jenn · 1 year ago
    at starbucks, they're cutting back on labor hours, and managers are having to do administrative work in significantly less time than they were given before. we also have less time to do things like maintain the store--all the stuff you don't see that keeps the place looking good--so that's how we're getting impacted.

    about the bulletins...why not try NOT having them altogether, just for a month, and see what happens. they may not be missed at all, and if they're not recycled, all that paper won't end up in a landfill. i'm a bbcc'er, and that's my vote--end the bulletin!
  • Greg · 1 year ago
    Yes, yes yes. Kill the bulletins. Save the trees. The bulletins tend to have 90% of the same info on them week after week anyway. I see them as a vestige of the past. We're all hip and modern now. People watch all the announcements on the "10B4" anyway.
  • Azar · 1 year ago
    I work at a retirement home. The only way we've really cut our budget is by not hiring anyone new. The only reason someone gets hired is if someone quits. Just thankful we haven't had to layoff anyone yet. The Lord is providing.
  • Ethan · 1 year ago
    I work in the furniture industry and my company has decided to eliminate an entire division. And guess who got the short stick?
    Manufacturing, warehousing, customer service, everything and everyone, all of it. 185 people including myself, outta a job in 6 months...or less.
  • Elgin · 1 year ago
    This makes me laugh. Not because of you, but because of where I am. It's more of a nervous laughter. You know, the kind of laughter masking worry - that I might be the part of the budget that gets trimmed!
  • Kyle · 1 year ago
    My positioni was ousted.
    Which means...I was ousted.

    Looking for work(that pays) is now my new position.

    In the mean time I am still working for the church(http://dialoguechurch.com) and getting Interpression Ministries(http://interpression.wordpress.com) up and going.

    God is still good...he's just also confusing.
  • human3rror · 1 year ago
    eating water.
  • matholemu · 1 year ago
    lol!
  • jonack · 1 year ago
    We have been asked to cut every budget by at least 10% and to curb as much of our spending as possible. No one laid off yet, but I think that is the next step...
  • Shane Kennard · 1 year ago
    We're in a different position. We're a new church plant in Syracuse, NY. We've added supporters every month and had two sizable one time gifts recently.

    We are alone in this endeavor currently. We're forming a team now and haven't had any gatherings; so we don't have the "have to's" that an established church (and I really mean "established" by any church who is doing worship services or has office space, etc) has.

    Just an encouragement to keep pressing to those who are facing hard times. God does provide exactly what we need.
  • melguera · 1 year ago
    Budget cuts & layoffs. The layoffs were done a couple months ago. Most were part-timers. We are also restructuring how we use our restaurant, perhaps having an outside company run it.

    EDIT: Oh, and paycuts, salary freezes and benefit cuts.
  • johnincolorado · 1 year ago
    trimming out a few part time position that could be done by volunteers.
    5% reduction across the board. more in some areas.
  • rachel · 1 year ago
    I have a store & our plan for the new year is to do more shows (ie a ton of extra work) but it is worth it if we keep all of our employees & get to work in such a wonderful place! Still praying through the details!
  • Jake · 1 year ago
    No trimming. We're adding. I work for Golden Living. We own 300-some nursing homes.
  • philsantillan · 1 year ago
    It's good to know that I'm not the only one that got a salary cut. Wife now is back to work full time and I'm home with the kids during the week. It's not what either of us wants, but it's where we are.
  • mitch · 1 year ago
    fire the whole staff. then pick them back up in 2010
  • LJO · 1 year ago
    our church had staff buyouts about 6 months ago. 1 month for every year you were employed, up to 10 months. they are just about to start round 2 of the buyouts. the admin staff is SLIM. :(
  • Katie · 1 year ago
    For my job as a 2nd grade teacher....they are cutting our supplies in half! The only problem with that is that we still need the supplies, so guess who ends up buying them with our own money??
  • johnincolorado · 1 year ago
    i taught for ten years so i feel your pain! and, of course, you have to cover more and test more, too. keep up the good work 'cause it's worth it.
  • PraiseChick · 1 year ago
    I got laid off from my church staff position last January. I was more than welcome to continue it on a volunteer basis, but the paid position was downsized due to "budget constraints".

    Yes, I still go there. And yes, I still volunteer. For a while I wanted to tell them where they could stick their "volunteer basis" because I had to go find a job!
  • mrsDeb · 1 year ago
    My husband's company has a hiring freeze and they may have started laying off their contractors. Our church has started limited offering envelops (which is just a good idea anyway). Locally, many companies are skipping the traditional Christmas party and offering time off so their employees can volunteer.

    As a stay at home Mom, I'm going to volunteering more and offering to babysit for working Moms.
  • tourmalincornerstone · 1 year ago
    at my husbands work 140 when down to 60 people this year. no more over time, with the same work load. they said no more heaters in the offices so i when out and got my husband thermals to wear under his suit. more layoff to come we pray every day for those that have been and those that will recieve pink slips. That they will find work and not lose hope.
  • Laura · 1 year ago
    What have we not done? We've had:
    Layoffs (twice)
    We start 'cube-sharing' on Monday - we've combined two locations into one ( much easier after layoffs)
    We've consolidated office supplies
    Cut down on copies and shipping
    Hiring freeze
    Wage-increase freeze
    Replaced the catered Christmas lunch with pot luck
    I could go on ...
  • mandy · 1 year ago
    My "corporation" is my home. I've got 3 little ones & hubs was in the RV industry. The NY Times calls our town "The white hot center of the American Economy meltdown"...yeah, scary.

    Hubs was commission only & his last paycheck was 80.04 for the month.
    Luckily we had savings. He left his job & started a new one on the West Coast. We're still on the East waiting for our house to sell.

    Homemade everything as far as meals go, which cut the grocery budget $100 a month (no hot lunches, no packaged stuff). Turn down the heat. Sold a car. Sold furniture. This is a time of survival for most of us. It really makes me see where I have excess in my life.
  • mrsDeb · 1 year ago
    I am so with you on the homemade everything! Found lots of good recipes and tips on this Yahoo group -> Frugal_moms_menus. Including a **$5 a week food storage plan**

    Set aside $5 a week to buy the specific items each week. You will have a kitty set aside that you put the $5 in and you can't touch it for any reason but to buy the food storage item for that week. Put in the remaining change back into the kitty. Some things in the beginning are going to be cheap and then later will be more expensive. In order to pay for the expensive stuff later you need to keep the leftover money in the kitty. Weeks 38 and 44 you will have "off" to replenish the kitty.

    Week 1: 2 cans tuna fish, 2 boxes salt
    Week 2: 5 boxes of Macaroni and Cheese
    4 cans tomato soup
    Week 3: 3 cans mushroom soup,
    1 2.5 lb peanut butter
    Week 4: one bottle 365 count multi-vitamins
    Week 5: 4 cans tomato soup, 1 10 lb powdered milk
    Week 6: 1 bottle aspirin (500 tablets)
    Week 7: 1 100 lb container wheat
    Week 8: 1 5 lb powdered milk
    Week 9: 1 5 lb honey
    Week 10: 4 cans tuna, 4 boxes macaroni and cheese
    Week 11: 1 10 lb sugar, 1 box salt
    Week 12: 4 cans mushroom soup
    Week 13: 1 bottle 365 count multi-vitamins
    Week 14: 1 100 lb wheat
    Week 15: 1 box macaroni and cheese
    Week 16: 1 5 lb honey
    Week 17: 2 cans tuna, 4 can tomato soup
    Week 18: 1 10 lbs sugar
    Week 19: 1 100 lbs of wheat
    Week 20: 2 10lbs of sugar
    Week 21: 1 10lb powdered milk
    Week 22: 1 can mushroom soup, 1 10 lb sugar
    Week 23: 1 can tuna, 4 cans tomato soup, 1 10 lbs sugar
    Week 24: 1 10 lbs sugar
    Week 25: 2 cans tuna, 2 cans mushroom soup
    Week 26: 1 100 lb wheat
    Week 27: 3 10 lbs sugar
    Week 28: 1 10 lb sugar
    Week 29: 1 10 lb powdered milk
    Week 30: 2 10 lb sugar
    Week 31: 1 can tuna, 3 cans mushroom soup
    Week 32: 1 can tuna, 4 cans tomato soup
    Week 33: 1 100 lb wheat
    Week 34: 2 cans tuna, 1 box salt
    Week 35: 1 10 lb powdered milk
    Week 36: 2 10 lb sugar
    Week 37: 4 cans tomato soup, 2 boxes salt
    Week 38: Stash $5 in the kitty
    Week 39: 1 100 lb wheat
    Week 40: 1 10 lb powdered milk
    Week 41: 3 10 lb sugar
    Week 42: 2 cans tomato soup, 1 10 lb sugar
    Week 43: 2 cans tomato soup, 2 cans mushroom soup
    Week 44: Stash $5 in the kitty
    Week 45: 1 10 lb powdered milk
    Week 46: 4 cans tomato soup, 4 cans mushroom soup
    Week 47: 1 10 lb powdered milk
    Week 48: 4 cans mushroom soup, 1 10 lb powdered milk
    Week 49: 7 cans of tomato soup
    Week 50: 7 cans of mushroom soup
    Week 51: 2 10 lbs sugar, 1 box salt

    By the end of the 52 weeks, you should have:

    700lbs of wheat,
    240 lbs sugar,
    40 lbs of powdered milk,
    13 lbs of salt,
    10 lbs of honey,
    5 lbs of peanut butter,
    45 cans of tomato soup,
    32 cans mushroom soup,
    15 cans tuna fish,
    10 macaroni and cheese dinners,
    500 aspirin, and
    730 multiple vitamins
    They suggest adding 6lbs of dried yeast and 6 lbs of shortening and this should be enough to sustain 2 people for a year. For every 2 people you have in your family add $5 more and double or triple the amount of whatever you are buying that week.
  • trae · 1 year ago
    wow.
  • Mr. Police Man · 1 year ago
    Letting 118 people go
  • Dave © · 1 year ago
    Professional Organization.

    We've done the usual: laid off poor performers, let go of high performers (let them walk instead of countering), rid the entire office of all plastic cups (errr...maybe that was to go "green").

    For 2009, one of my personal goals is to improve our team's leverage model (In short, that is making sure that the best resource is doing the job without overpaying to get the job done right. In shorter, if someone lower than you can do the job effectively...they better be doing it instead of you! In shortest, empower and delegate!) Other than the plastic cups, we haven't done and don't intend to do anything too drastic. Our business is still solid.

    Personal Organization (that's home).

    Good times or bad, my wife and I periodically hold contests to see who can spend the least amount of money for an entire week/month. We don't count necessities (e.g. food, gas). At the end of the month, we evaluate what we really missed, which for me is always my Carmel Macchiatos from Starbucks. But I've found that Folgers ain't all that bad. Not too good but not that bad!
  • Katsy · 1 year ago
    I am buying my presents on ebay (hopefully some new) since I may be let go soon. My manager is trying to get me fired since I came back from taking unpaid Family leave. In this job market it would be devastating for me and my family especially with a newly adopted baby. I only pray that she gets 1000% of all the goodness she eludes.
  • Aaron · 1 year ago
    Good call.

    Personally, I always thought the way NP handled bulletins was a bit much.
  • Daniel Roberts · 1 year ago
    Church I was working for part time decided a college student could replace me for less at the end of last summer (lighting director / stage designer). I hadn't told them, but luckily I was going to quit about a month later anyway. Been called back at least 5 times on contract work to fix things since then. Ironically, my day rate is almost double what they were paying me weekly. So they haven't really saved much money in the long run.

    A music TV network I do lighting for was supposed to take a month break from shooting in like August. Other than a week of shooting Christmas specials, production has been pushed back til at least late January.

    Back in September when the market took a dive, my main job (video home tours) almost dried up. We were shooting a few days a week and I think we've shot less than 5 days since then.

    On a personal note, my wife and I had planned a roadtrip out west and coming back through Canada for our honeymoon (married on Oct 11), but we decided to stick closer to home and mostly just visited family and friends. It's also given me good motivation to get my photography business up and running again, which I've been wanting to do for a while now anyway.

    Sorry for the long post, but I just came from my banking website and really needed to get that off my chest.
  • Brittany Ibarra · 1 year ago
    We used to get $500 gift cards to Costco...not anymore!!!!
  • dirkdallas · 1 year ago
    All budgets are cut 15% across the board. And we are asking our vendors to reduce prices. Thankfully no one has been let go yet…
  • Brandon's Printing · 1 year ago
    With all the church bulletin cutbacks we have laid off 3/4 of our workforce and moving our Duluth offices to Mexico in search of cheaper labor.
  • The Wingnut · 1 year ago
    Well, my wife just voluntarily went down to four days a week instead of full time. Many people at her place of employment chose that as an alternative to layoffs.

    My job has been carrying on fairly steadily. What we specialize in, actually, may see a slight uptick with a downturn.

    The company I work for is an aircraft charter and fractional ownership company (think timeshare for jets). As the economy slows, and many companies are closing their flight departments and selling their aircraft, owning only a share in an aircraft, rather than the whole thing, or simply chartering it as needed, is a less-expensive option for those businesses with a need for air travel without the hassle of the airlines.

    I'm sure that the slowdown will impact us later, as the ripples spread through the economy, but for right now, we're doing okay.

    wingnut
  • Dee · 1 year ago
    The owners of the Christian bookstore I managed decided to close. That is drastic trimming. I found out when I was on vacation.
  • Karen Byrne · 1 year ago
    just read all the comments. now i'm depressed.

    so far, the *threat* of salary freezes. nothing confirmed. i'm so glad to have a job.
  • boyd bettis · 1 year ago
    we combined all our three weekly print outs and condensed it to one hand out. we are printing a 3rd of what we were weekly. This cut down printing fees, ink, and paper. So, we are slowly making some steps to cutting out unnecessary expenses and cutting out some clutter...that was driving me crazy.
  • adam · 1 year ago
    my company announced that all employees who are on the bonus/incentive program or who get sales commission are not going to receive a merit increase (raise) in 09.

    employees who are NOT on these plans, like me (thank goodness) are still slated for a merit increase in january. i'm not counting on it being big...

    our other divisions, which have close ties to the auto industry, are scrambling and will probably start cutting positions in the new year.

    fun for all!
  • Greggerjo · 1 year ago
    Our student ministry is trying to kill two birds w/ one stone. Our church currently uses an outside company for all of our custodial needs (we've already been throwing around ideas for how to trim in that area). AND, we have a group of Jr./ Sr.'s who are fund raising for a hurricane relief trip to Jamaica this summer. Our proposal...

    The church 'down-sizes' the professional cleaners and hires the Jamaica students for half price!! (genius? I think so!!)
  • Marcelo · 1 year ago
    Fridays off. It's like... it sucks, but it's great!
  • Erica_A · 1 year ago
    It's saddening to see all these stories of scrimping and scrambling for a job. I know some of ya'll have families to support. Luckily, my organization is "me" and if I fire "me" then I definitely won't have any cash. However, God has been more than faithful to provide me with projects as a freelance employee =)
    -I don't eat out as much
    -buy more tuna =)
    -keep things to snack on in my car so when the blood sugar drops I'm not starving and needing to get fast food
    -thinking of creative (low-to-no-cost) ways of blessing people for their bdays.
    -consistently tithing even if that 10% is little.
  • Chris Meirose · 1 year ago
    We've cut something like 20% for our budge for 2009 (still needs congregations approval). This means we've cut our cleaning service so people will have to volunteer to clean our church weekly. We've cut back lots of areas we don't want to cut back in, places like missions and evangelism, because everything is shrinking, and some things are ceasing. That's the cold hard reality of a small church with a tight budget in a tough time in a small town. Probably the reality in many other places as well. But we will live to fight another day. And God can still work with what we have, and in spite of what we don't have. He is God after all!
  • aggie4him · 1 year ago
    We cut my position. They gave me till the end of January though to figure something out and they have been pretty cool in the process.
  • Ryan · 1 year ago
    I start by saying that we have been blessed incredibly this year. We are between pastors, with a interim in place, and... attendance is up, giving is up, ministry involvement is strong, support for ministries that meet the needs of families in our community is higher than ever.
    That said, we are changing how we celebrate as a staff. Encouraging our people to celebrate relationally so that they are freed to bless those less fortunate. Backing off on tech expenses, etc.
  • Julie gamblin · 1 year ago
    Come visit Crossroads Newnan Church on Christmas EVE. Service times are...11:00, 1:00, 3:00, 5:00, and 7:00. and service is 1 and a half hour long. here is a Link. www.crossroadsnewnan.org
  • Jake · 1 year ago
    I know exactly where crossroads is...cool! I attend LWRV by A-Z, know where that is?